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freeze in fedora 28 while playing videos

So I'm using fedora28 as a host for a short time now. Besides fedora in qubes OS, I don't use it outside of VMs so I never experienced that. I'm experiencing complete graphical freeze but not sound with videos playing with totem or vlc. The sound continues to play. The only way I can regain control is through a hard reboot. The usb input seems to freeze too because my RGB keyboard is not playing the variation colors during the freezes. Those videos I only have played them from NFS share for the moment. Not tested locally. I can play netflix from firefox without any freezes. the freezes seem to happen randomly during the video. Don't know what triggers it but I can use fedora continuously for days if I don't play videos.

I'm using gnome. So I read that gnome is using wayland, I don't know much about it since I was more used to xorg, but I did the troobleshooting. vlc is using the xorg compatibility of wayland and totem is a native wayland app. So I guess the problem is not in the toolkit nor the app coding, am I right?

So how do I debug this? could it be a problem with mutter? is it a problem with the graphic cards?

I'm using the intel chipset for the moment, I have also a nvidia card installed. I did the installation with the nvidia card linked to the screen and made the change after the installation ... is it the problem ? I know it's stupid mistake. I want to use the nvidia card with gpu passthrough in qemu that's why I went to use the intel chipset.

Gnome or wayland seems to have understood that after 2 reboots after I change cables' places. Should I do something to change a configuration files? is there a way like with xorg to remove the nvidia mention in the system? Before we had to purge the nouveau drivers and look at the xorg configuration, is it a thing alike here?

I really need a help here. Tell me what to show ? or tell me if I need to do a fresh installation with like now the intel chipset as primary in the bios? Or should I do a fresh installation with the nvidia card removed?

Thanks in advance

freeze in fedora 28 while playing videos

So I'm using fedora28 as a host for a short time now. Besides fedora in qubes OS, I don't use it outside of VMs so I never experienced that. I'm experiencing complete graphical freeze but not sound with videos playing with totem or vlc. The sound continues to play. The only way I can regain control is through a hard reboot. The usb input seems to freeze too because my RGB keyboard is not playing the variation colors during the freezes. Those videos I only have played them from NFS share for the moment. Not tested locally. I can play netflix from firefox without any freezes. the freezes seem to happen randomly during the video. Don't know what triggers it but I can use fedora continuously for days if I don't play videos.

I'm using gnome. So I read that gnome is using wayland, I don't know much about it since I was more used to xorg, but I did the troobleshooting. vlc is using the xorg compatibility of wayland and totem is a native wayland app. So I guess the problem is not in the toolkit nor the app coding, am I right?

So how do I debug this? could it be a problem with mutter? is it a problem with the graphic cards?

I'm using the intel chipset for the moment, I have also a nvidia card installed. I did the installation with the nvidia card linked to the screen and made the change after the installation ... is it the problem ? I know it's stupid mistake. I want to use the nvidia card with gpu passthrough in qemu that's why I went to use the intel chipset.

Gnome or wayland seems to have understood that after 2 reboots after I change cables' places. Should I do something to change a configuration files? is there a way like with xorg to remove the nvidia mention in the system? Before we had to purge the nouveau drivers and look at the xorg configuration, is it a thing alike here?

I really need a help here. Tell me what to show ? or tell me if I need to do a fresh installation with like now the intel chipset as primary in the bios? Or should I do a fresh installation with the nvidia card removed?

Edit 18/07: I've tested with videos locally stored by transfering one from the nfs share to the document folder and still got the freeze around 5 minutes or so after the start of the video.

Thanks in advance

freeze in fedora 28 while playing videos

So I'm using fedora28 as a bare metal host for a short time now. Besides fedora in qubes OS, I don't use it outside of VMs so I never experienced that.

I'm experiencing complete graphical freeze (ON THE HOST, FEDORA IS NOT IN THE VM) but not sound with videos playing with totem or vlc. The sound continues to play. The only way I can regain control is through a hard reboot. The usb input seems to freeze too because my RGB keyboard is not playing the variation colors during the freezes. Those videos I only have played them from NFS share for the moment. Not tested locally. I can play netflix from firefox without any freezes. the freezes seem to happen randomly during the video. Don't know what triggers it but I can use fedora continuously for days if I don't play videos.

I'm using gnome. So I read that gnome is using wayland, I don't know much about it since I was more used to xorg, but I did the troobleshooting. vlc is using the xorg compatibility of wayland and totem is a native wayland app. So I guess the problem is not in the toolkit nor the app coding, am I right?

So how do I debug this? could it be a problem with mutter? is it a problem with the graphic cards?

I'm using the intel chipset for the moment, I have also a nvidia card installed. I did the installation with the nvidia card linked to the screen and made the change after the installation ... is it the problem ? I know it's stupid mistake. I want to use the nvidia card with gpu passthrough in qemu that's why I went to use the intel chipset.

Gnome or wayland seems to have understood that after 2 reboots after I change cables' places. Should I do something to change a configuration files? is there a way like with xorg to remove the nvidia mention in the system? Before we had to purge the nouveau drivers and look at the xorg configuration, is it a thing alike here?

I really need a help here. Tell me what to show ? or tell me if I need to do a fresh installation with like now the intel chipset as primary in the bios? Or should I do a fresh installation with the nvidia card removed?

Edit 18/07: I've tested with videos locally stored by transfering one from the nfs share to the document folder and still got the freeze around 5 minutes or so after the start of the video.

Edit: config: i7-7700k, 2 screens attached to the igpu intel (on display port and the other one in hdmi). 970 EVGA GTX FTW3 chipset nvidia with one attached screen (gpu passthrough not yet activated) 16G of ram asrock fatality z270 professional gaming ssd intel 730 250G

Thanks in advance

freeze in fedora 28 while playing videos

So I'm using fedora28 as a bare metal host for a short time now. Besides fedora in qubes OS, I don't use it outside of VMs so I never experienced that.

I'm experiencing complete graphical freeze (ON THE HOST, FEDORA IS NOT IN THE VM) but not sound with videos playing with totem or vlc. The sound continues to play. The only way I can regain control is through a hard reboot. The usb input seems to freeze too because my RGB keyboard is not playing the variation colors during the freezes. Those videos I only have played them from NFS share for the moment. Not tested locally. I can play netflix from firefox without any freezes. the freezes seem to happen randomly during the video. Don't know what triggers it but I can use fedora continuously for days if I don't play videos.

I'm using gnome. So I read that gnome is using wayland, I don't know much about it since I was more used to xorg, but I did the troobleshooting. vlc is using the xorg compatibility of wayland and totem is a native wayland app. So I guess the problem is not in the toolkit nor the app coding, am I right?

So how do I debug this? could it be a problem with mutter? is it a problem with the graphic cards?

I'm using the intel chipset for the moment, I have also a nvidia card installed. I did the installation with the nvidia card linked to the screen and made the change after the installation ... is it the problem ? I know it's stupid mistake. I want to use the nvidia card with gpu passthrough in qemu that's why I went to use the intel chipset.

Gnome or wayland seems to have understood that after 2 reboots after I change cables' places. Should I do something to change a configuration files? is there a way like with xorg to remove the nvidia mention in the system? Before we had to purge the nouveau drivers and look at the xorg configuration, is it a thing alike here?

I really need a help here. Tell me what to show ? or tell me if I need to do a fresh installation with like now the intel chipset as primary in the bios? Or should I do a fresh installation with the nvidia card removed?

Edit 18/07: I've tested with videos locally stored by transfering one from the nfs share to the document folder and still got the freeze around 5 minutes or so after the start of the video.

Edit: config: i7-7700k, 2 screens attached to the igpu intel (on display port and the other one in hdmi). 970 EVGA GTX FTW3 chipset nvidia with one attached screen (gpu passthrough not yet activated) 16G of ram asrock fatality z270 professional gaming ssd intel 730 250G

Edit after test:

It's clearly not a temperature problem. I have a noctua NH-D15 on it. the fan are auto-controlled as you may know it, and there are far from the full speed. As you may know it the fans from the nvidia gpu if it was working, are auto-controlled too, and so it would go up in terms of speed but doesn't activate so the nvidia is at rest. In that logic nothing is OS controlled here.

I have also I-NEX and there is a temp monitoring in it. My cpu is at 36 °C during video playback right now, and I'm under Xorg session.

Plus if it was a temp problem, the sound wouldn't continue while the freezes goes on, it would be a complete stop of the computer. I don't see how one system could overheat with all the protection in place while the rest continues to work.

By the way I'm working and I'm at my second movie under Xorg session and there has been no crashes so far.

If you want to point at me where I can paste the logs I would happily do it.... And if you want to point at me some examples of overheating log lines or others point of interests you can tell me too....

For me, it seems more of a WAYLAND problem or mutter? no logs for wayland so no way to debug it

here is the past of 2 syslog one some minutes before crash, another one just before and reboot process

https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/OBT8DQ2xwl3SVZHCldYTkQ

https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/ELfbP~7e0bo436SUQF~nxg

Thanks in advance

freeze in fedora 28 while playing videos

So I'm using fedora28 as a bare metal host for a short time now. Besides fedora in qubes OS, I don't use it outside of VMs so I never experienced that.

I'm experiencing complete graphical freeze (ON THE HOST, FEDORA IS NOT IN THE VM) but not sound with videos playing with totem or vlc. The sound continues to play. The only way I can regain control is through a hard reboot. The usb input seems to freeze too because my RGB keyboard is not playing the variation colors during the freezes. Those videos I only have played them from NFS share for the moment. Not tested locally. I can play netflix from firefox without any freezes. the freezes seem to happen randomly during the video. Don't know what triggers it but I can use fedora continuously for days if I don't play videos.

I'm using gnome. So I read that gnome is using wayland, I don't know much about it since I was more used to xorg, but I did the troobleshooting. vlc is using the xorg compatibility of wayland and totem is a native wayland app. So I guess the problem is not in the toolkit nor the app coding, am I right?

So how do I debug this? could it be a problem with mutter? is it a problem with the graphic cards?

I'm using the intel chipset for the moment, I have also a nvidia card installed. I did the installation with the nvidia card linked to the screen and made the change after the installation ... is it the problem ? I know it's stupid mistake. I want to use the nvidia card with gpu passthrough in qemu that's why I went to use the intel chipset.

Gnome or wayland seems to have understood that after 2 reboots after I change cables' places. Should I do something to change a configuration files? is there a way like with xorg to remove the nvidia mention in the system? Before we had to purge the nouveau drivers and look at the xorg configuration, is it a thing alike here?

I really need a help here. Tell me what to show ? or tell me if I need to do a fresh installation with like now the intel chipset as primary in the bios? Or should I do a fresh installation with the nvidia card removed?

Edit 18/07: I've tested with videos locally stored by transfering one from the nfs share to the document folder and still got the freeze around 5 minutes or so after the start of the video.

Edit: config: i7-7700k, 2 screens attached to the igpu intel (on display port and the other one in hdmi). 970 EVGA GTX FTW3 chipset nvidia with one attached screen (gpu passthrough not yet activated) 16G of ram asrock fatality z270 professional gaming ssd intel 730 250G

Edit after test:

It's clearly not a temperature problem. I have a noctua NH-D15 on it. the fan are auto-controlled as you may know it, and there are far from the full speed. As you may know it the fans from the nvidia gpu if it was working, are auto-controlled too, and so it would go up in terms of speed but doesn't activate so the nvidia is at rest. In that logic nothing is OS controlled here.

I have also I-NEX and there is a temp monitoring in it. My cpu is at 36 °C during video playback right now, and I'm under Xorg session.

Plus if it was a temp problem, the sound wouldn't continue while the freezes goes on, it would be a complete stop of the computer. I don't see how one system could overheat with all the protection in place while the rest continues to work.

By the way I'm working and I'm at my second movie under Xorg session and there has been no crashes so far.

If you want to point at me where I can paste the logs I would happily do it.... And if you want to point at me some examples of overheating log lines or others point of interests you can tell me too....

For me, it seems more of a WAYLAND problem or mutter? no logs for wayland so no way to debug it

here is the past of 2 syslog one some minutes before crash, another one just before and reboot process

https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/OBT8DQ2xwl3SVZHCldYTkQ

https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/ELfbP~7e0bo436SUQF~nxg

as you can see no Temp issues here. And as I said, until someone demonstrates to me, it sounds unlogical that it could be anywhere near a temp issue.

Thanks in advance

freeze in fedora 28 while playing videos

So I'm using fedora28 as a bare metal host for a short time now. Besides fedora in qubes OS, I don't use it outside of VMs so I never experienced that.

I'm experiencing complete graphical freeze (ON THE HOST, FEDORA IS NOT IN THE VM) but not sound with videos playing with totem or vlc. The sound continues to play. The only way I can regain control is through a hard reboot. The usb input seems to freeze too because my RGB keyboard is not playing the variation colors during the freezes. Those videos I only have played them from NFS share for the moment. Not tested locally. I can play netflix from firefox without any freezes. the freezes seem to happen randomly during the video. Don't know what triggers it but I can use fedora continuously for days if I don't play videos.

I'm using gnome. So I read that gnome is using wayland, I don't know much about it since I was more used to xorg, but I did the troobleshooting. vlc is using the xorg compatibility of wayland and totem is a native wayland app. So I guess the problem is not in the toolkit nor the app coding, am I right?

So how do I debug this? could it be a problem with mutter? is it a problem with the graphic cards?

I'm using the intel chipset for the moment, I have also a nvidia card installed. I did the installation with the nvidia card linked to the screen and made the change after the installation ... is it the problem ? I know it's stupid mistake. I want to use the nvidia card with gpu passthrough in qemu that's why I went to use the intel chipset.

Gnome or wayland seems to have understood that after 2 reboots after I change cables' places. Should I do something to change a configuration files? is there a way like with xorg to remove the nvidia mention in the system? Before we had to purge the nouveau drivers and look at the xorg configuration, is it a thing alike here?

I really need a help here. Tell me what to show ? or tell me if I need to do a fresh installation with like now the intel chipset as primary in the bios? Or should I do a fresh installation with the nvidia card removed?

Edit 18/07: I've tested with videos locally stored by transfering one from the nfs share to the document folder and still got the freeze around 5 minutes or so after the start of the video.

Edit: config: i7-7700k, 2 screens attached to the igpu intel (on display port and the other one in hdmi). 970 EVGA GTX FTW3 chipset nvidia with one attached screen (gpu passthrough not yet activated) 16G of ram asrock fatality z270 professional gaming ssd intel 730 250G

Edit after test:

It's clearly not a temperature problem. I have a noctua NH-D15 on it. the fan are auto-controlled as you may know it, and there are far from the full speed. As you may know it the fans from the nvidia gpu if it was working, are auto-controlled too, and so it would go up in terms of speed but doesn't activate so the nvidia is at rest. In that logic nothing is OS controlled here.

I have also I-NEX and there is a temp monitoring in it. My cpu is at 36 °C during video playback right now, and I'm under Xorg session.

Plus if it was a temp problem, the sound wouldn't continue while the freezes goes on, it would be a complete stop of the computer. I don't see how one system could overheat with all the protection in place while the rest continues to work.

By the way I'm working and I'm at my second movie under Xorg session and there has been no crashes so far.

If you want to point at me where I can paste the logs I would happily do it.... And if you want to point at me some examples of overheating log lines or others point of interests you can tell me too....

For me, it seems more of a WAYLAND problem or mutter? no logs for wayland so no way to debug it

here is the past of 2 syslog one some minutes before crash, another one just before and reboot process

https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/OBT8DQ2xwl3SVZHCldYTkQ

https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/ELfbP~7e0bo436SUQF~nxg

as you can see no Temp issues here. And as I said, until someone demonstrates to me, it sounds unlogical that it could be anywhere near a temp issue.

Edit 20/07

So I've reinstalled, Same bug. BUT it got a bit better because the installation have been made on the intel chipset directly. So a bit less of the freeze. I can confirm that's a wayland bug or at least a mutter bug. I didn't yet try weston to replace mutter. As i said this is not a Temp issue, all Temps are normal, and the sound continues during the videos and I let the videos run even when the whole graphic have frozen, and the Graphic interface is restored when the video stopped. So this is a not a hardware issue, this is not a temp issue nor it is an app issue. This is clearly the compositor or the protocol. So where do I find the contact page to the wayland devs and mutter devs since nobody from the fedora dev team will ever answer here I guess about that bug?

Thanks in advance