why use upgrade path vs clean install [closed]

asked 2016-12-30 14:35:35 -0500

flurbius gravatar image

I usually religiously clean install new versions of OSs rather than use the inplace upgrade if offered. But after reading a few good reports of the f24 to f25 upgrade I decided to try it.

Its pretty early but Im not impressed, the process took about 90 minutes, and then after running for about ten minutes had a massive system meltdown that could only be recovered from by holding the power button until it forced shut down. :-( I had been looking at the settings and had a list of available themes, the process was taking some time so I left it in the background while I tried to find the differences between 24 and 25. After a little while I got an error dialog that said

'An error occured while trying to access the server. Please try again in a little while. Details: <urlopen error="" [errno="" -2]="" name="" or="" service="" not="" known="">'

Im guessing it came from the theme control panel, it didnt have a title bar, window controls or buttons on it except a large OK button at the bottom. before I could click the ok it was followed by 40 or so identical dialogs in rapid succession till the system stopped responding. Its a Dell inspiron 11 running a fully updated 64bit version of f24 before the update with cinnamon desktop.

Some background: A refugee from windows 8.1, I came to Fedora about 8 months ago via Windows 10 (upgrade - unusable, clean install ok but then it started getting creepy) so I tried various linux distros (Maybe 40 or so) I currently have (Manjaro, deepin, RemixOS, windows10 and fedora, all peacefully multibooting) F24 has performed very well I have been using it for 6 months and have not had any incident remotely like the one I described above, I have been using f24 as my go-to OS but Manjaro is coming a close second.

Back to my question I guess people are going to say they dont want to re-install and re-configure everything so the upgrade saves effort, but I disagree - maybe using windows that would be true but here I can copy my home folder and a few other config files and feed the package manager a long list of software and be back to work in no time.

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Closed for the following reason too subjective and argumentative by sideburns
close date 2016-12-30 15:47:32.904085


Welcome to ask.fedora. Please understand that this forum is a place to get and give help, not discuss (argue) the relative merits of different ways of doing things. If you want help, tell us what you need and the people here will do their best to help, but as it is, there's no question to answer. Closing.

sideburns gravatar imagesideburns ( 2016-12-30 15:46:57 -0500 )edit

Fair enough - I wasnt trying to pick a fight - it was more a philosophical question.

flurbius gravatar imageflurbius ( 2016-12-31 01:44:13 -0500 )edit

I'm sure your motives were good. It's just that this type of subjective question leads to arguments no matter how careful you are. Now, how about opening a new question about what went wrong and how to fix it?

sideburns gravatar imagesideburns ( 2016-12-31 03:31:17 -0500 )edit

I have a lot of issues the worst are probably related to a cracked screen in the built in display generating random touch events. Before you say that its not a problem with f25 or the upgrade - I am multi-booting this hardware and f24 didnt have any problem with it. Manjaro does a bit and Android wont run (because it doesnt handle multiple displays) but windows 10, deepin and Apricity all safely ignore the disabled display.

My best bet is to clean install f25, if that fails re-install f24. I would love to help debug but my goal is to get the system productive and time is limited.

flurbius gravatar imageflurbius ( 2017-01-02 12:14:19 -0500 )edit