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gnome-software update non-functional [closed]

asked 2014-01-17 13:59:48 -0500

Roger Bivand gravatar image

After upgrading (fedup) to Fedora 20, and installing the missing gnome-software application, I repeatedly find that yum update finds (and updates) many packages, but gnome-software always reports that the system is up-to-date.

Does this application actually check anything? Can it be configured to check? Should a daemon be running in gnome 3 that just checks?

In Fedora 19, a daemon must have been checking, as messages about pending updates appeared often.

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Closed for the following reason duplicate question by mether
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So in fact gnome-software is disfunctional on all platforms that are not online 24/7, and in addition does not appear to have any facilities for users to see what it is doing, that is, not fit for purpose. Running yum manually is the only option for non-24/7 pløatforms, right?

Roger Bivand gravatar imageRoger Bivand ( 2014-01-18 00:22:11 -0500 )edit
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@mether: closing this question is very premature and I request its immediate re-opening. There is no advice or documentation anywhere, on the Gnome wiki for example, to show how gnome-software is intended to be used, but there is a lot of "user experience" waffle and GUI pictures. Is there a CLI to something that works (gnome 3 message of server-side updates before download)? Is there GUI or CLI access to daemon settings to tell GS when to check and GUI g-s options to manage downloads? Is there any way of reverting away from g-s?

Roger Bivand gravatar imageRoger Bivand ( 2014-01-18 00:27:43 -0500 )edit

Florian's answer: 1.) Start/install dconf-editor

2.) Navigate to org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.updates schema

Here you can set pretty much every behavior of gnome-software from disabling auto-download, changing the updating-cycle or disabling auto-updates. Standard update frequency is set to 86400 seconds, that’s 24h. Examining the GUI settings shows a 24h get frequency for updates and cache refreshing, but update frequency notification at 7 (seven) days. Crucially, update-battery was unchecked, and explains the not fit for purpose behaviour (my laptop is on battery when being used).

Roger Bivand gravatar imageRoger Bivand ( 2014-01-18 00:33:33 -0500 )edit

See my comment to this question for info why it does not work on non-gnome desktop.

Aleksandar Kostadinov gravatar imageAleksandar Kostadinov ( 2014-07-14 11:00:13 -0500 )edit

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answered 2014-01-17 15:49:49 -0500

mether gravatar image

It is functional however it prompts for updates less frequently unless they are security updates. Yum updates its metadata every 6 hours so it is much more aggressive.

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answered 2014-01-17 20:59:55 -0500

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updated 2014-01-17 21:00:40 -0500

Hi all, similar question with a +2 rated answer here:

"Yum has more aggressive refreshing of its metadata (every 6 hours) and GNOME Software and other frontends might depend on the caching more (except for security updates)and you might just hit different mirrors even between two consecutive runs of yum."

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In my case I'm not so sure whether an update through gnome-software really works. Here is it's output: "(gnome-software:3093): Gs-WARNING **: failed to get updates: no results to show"

florian gravatar imageflorian ( 2014-01-17 21:11:12 -0500 )edit

I've also looked in the notifications area of this dconf: probably because I fedup-ed from f19 to f20, gnome-software wasn't installed, and even after installing it, it isn't listed as a notifying application. It looks as though the install/cleanup part of gnome-software is broken, even after setting all the times for polling and notifying to 30 minutes, and running without suspending on mains power. Where should issues with gnome-software be reported?

Roger Bivand gravatar imageRoger Bivand ( 2014-01-18 07:11:36 -0500 )edit

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=722493 shows my report and the results so far. After editing down to 30min in dconf-editor, and adding gnome-software to org.gnome.desktop.notifications, I received a notification and used gnome-software to update, apparently successfully. Because GS wants to restart on install updates, I can see the logic in day/week notification cycles, but I don't think that they are necessarily safe (they feel like patch Tuesday, but I guess we want users to update soon after an update is published, right?).

Roger Bivand gravatar imageRoger Bivand ( 2014-01-18 07:59:35 -0500 )edit
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answered 2014-01-17 20:35:52 -0500

rafaelluik gravatar image

GNOME-Software checks and downloads updates in the background and only displays if there are available updates after downloading them all.

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