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How do I install a windowing desktop onto vanilla fedora 19?

asked 2013-10-04 03:10:43 -0500

jeremyinfrance gravatar image

I must start off by apologizing for having been stupid.

I have been a user of Red Hat and Fedora since Red Hat 8, a user of it not an expert, using Gnome as my desktop. I have been updating my Fedora regularly via DVD up to version 14, because of no internet access. I had moved to France from England a few years ago and had difficulty getting internet access because of where I lived. However, I am now back in the real world, so I upgraded to the latest version only to discover to my horror Gnome 3! So I tried XFCE and liked it very much, it provided the same functionality and access to everything that Gnome 2 did so I was happy. Until, I clicked on something (I know not what) in the top panel, ever since then there were no icons showing me what apps were active and so I could no longer switch between them.

Now here's the stupid bit. Being new to the yum installer (always did things via rpm's before) I assumed that since I also had KDE functioning I could just remove XFCE so that I could then reinstall it. Wrong! Yum also removed KDE. However, Fedora 19 remains and I can boot up and log into it (just like using the mainframes at university 30 years ago).

So here is the big question. How can I reinstall a windowing desktop onto this vanilla Fedora 19, without having to go through the whole re-installation process and losing all the apps I had loaded after Fedora 19 with XFCE?

Many thanks to anyone who replies.

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answered 2013-10-04 06:18:52 -0500

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updated 2013-10-04 06:24:11 -0500

If you want KDE back too, i'd suggest you undo the yum-history.

su
yum history list NUM
yum history undo NUM

Where NUM is the first number of a line from the listoutput... Example:

yum history info 216
yum history undo 216

This will undo the steps, which should result in a working KDE.

Some thing are highly dependent on each other and may result in an 'unusable' system, so it always a good idea to check what should be removed before accepting it.

About installing diffrent DE/WM:

 yum grouplist -v|grep desk
   GNOME-Desktop (gnome-desktop-environment)
   KDE Plasma-Arbeitsumgebung (kde-desktop-environment)
   Xfce-Desktop (xfce-desktop-environment)
   LXDE-Benutzeroberfläche (lxde-desktop-environment)
   Cinnamon-Benutzeroberfläche (cinnamon-desktop-environment)
   MATE-Benutzeroberfläche (mate-desktop-environment)
   Sugar-Arbeitsumgebung (sugar-desktop-environment)
   Basic Desktop (basic-desktop-environment)

Hope this helps

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answered 2013-10-04 03:49:21 -0500

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updated 2013-10-04 03:57:01 -0500

As for installing Xfce4 back, you could do as root: yum groupinstall "Xfce Desktop".

As for problem with 'task bar', please look at this page

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answered 2013-10-04 07:45:39 -0500

Somewhere in your user home directory, there are configuration files that tell XFCE how you like your panels set up.

(*I don't have an XFCE machine in front of me right now to give filenames, sorry - you might have to do some reading or experimenting)

If you remove these configuration files, you'll get the same behaviour as before. There's no need to reinstall any packages, you have only changed user settings.

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answered 2013-10-04 10:12:49 -0500

jeremyinfrance gravatar image

updated 2013-10-04 11:59:38 -0500

Thanks Guys!

I tried all suggestions.

1) yum groupinstall "Xfce Desktop" -- this didn't work. But the link is very useful indeed. Thanks a lot Artur.

2) Sea, "top man", your "yum history ..." worked perfectly I now have both desktops back. All I need now is to learn a lot more about yum.

3) Dear Randomuser, I am now trawling through all the hidden files to find the one that deals with the panel and taskbar, haven't found it yet.

It's really comforting and mind blowing to understand that the world an internet never sleep! Once again thanks for all your help.

BREAKING NEWS -- all damage repaired. I went back to look at a site which showed how to improve the general appearance of the xfce desktop:

Unfortunately, apparently my karma is too low for me to give you a link but try "pimp my xfce" it should find the link!

Went through it again to find that an item in the panel had been deleted somehow, this occurred by an accidental click in the panel itself!? Adding "Windows Buttons" to the panel restored all.

Once again thanks for all of your prompt assistance.

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Try this: yum groupinstall xfce-desktop-environment OR yum install @xfce

For future yum grouplist -v

sea gravatar imagesea ( 2013-10-04 12:49:49 -0500 )edit
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answered 2013-10-05 07:59:12 -0500

Hi: Try Cinnamon, it's /related/ to Gnome3, as in it use most of the libraries, but it has a really usable interface. "Traditional layout, advanced features, easy to use, powerful, flexible." To install it

sudo yum -y install cinnamon

Good luck!

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