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[SOLVED] This combo keeps freezing: FC-25 / Negativo17 Nvidia 381.22-2 / XFCE-4 / Optimus Lenovo Y700

asked 2017-06-15 23:41:29 -0500

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updated 2018-04-01 19:57:30 -0500

Hello Friends:

Lately my laptop started freezing randomly, but regularly. Here is it's configuration:

- Fedora-25/64-bit
- Kernel: 4.11.3-202
- Nvidia 381.22-2 from the Negativo17 repository
- XFCE-4 desktop GUI (nothng fancy)
- Lenovo Y700 laptop
- GPU: Nvidia GTX 960M
- This is an Optimus-based laptop, with switchable graphics (between the integrated INTEL GPU and
  the NVIDIA GPU). But I have it configured to always use the NVIDIA GPU (I believe. It's
  sometimes hard to tell).

It is configured to have the NVIDIA GPU active at all times (I think; its been a while). That the following command works, I think means that the NVIDIA GPU is the active one.

user$ glxgears

Anyway, probably after some recent dnf upgrade, the laptop semi-regularly just freezes; and absolutely nothing is responsive when that happens: mouse & keystrokes, are all dead. I can still SSH into the box to reboot, but it is so hosed that when it reaches the init-0 phase, the screen stays blank, keystrokes still don't work, and it never completes the reboot (it just stays stuck near the shutdown stage). The only recourse, then, is to hard power-off by holding down the power button.

It was working perfectly, and for a long time. I made no changes other than issuing "user$ sudo dnf -y update", which I do regularly. That, of course, can do it. But my point is that I didn't introduce any other modifications ... just a simple, "Let's update the packages".

Any ideas what could be suddenly causing this? I saw similar issues online about this, but some date several months back.

Thank you! :)

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@steveebey73742 Thanks for your setup info. I upgraded to that kernel (4.11.4-200.fc25.x86_64) yesterday, which is when it became available to me in via 'dnf -y upgrade', and so far so good. I'm still in a wait and see approach. =:)

nyceyes gravatar imagenyceyes ( 2017-06-17 09:59:07 -0500 )edit

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answered 2018-04-01 19:56:06 -0500

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Hello Friends:


I eventually figured out my issue, and boy this was both obvious and not obvious at the same time. A completely different discussion on a Lenovo forum mentioned updating the BIOS, but for another reason. That got me to thinking, "Let me try that". I did it and the problem hasn't resurfaced since (fingers crossed -- but it's been a while now).

My own description in this post -- which was INPUT and OUTPUT related, and even mentioned BIOS -- did not trigger the thought to do this. Most likely because you usually don't see BIOS updates. But, in fact, there were a few BIOS updates in this case. (._.) I wish I had thought of this many months ago.

Ah, well. I hope this helps someone else. =)

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answered 2017-06-17 10:02:04 -0500

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updated 2017-06-21 18:01:48 -0500

After performing another sudo dnf -y update, which contained a newer kernel 4.11.4-200.fc25.x86_64, things have stabilized (no freezes). But I'm still in wait-and-see mode, and will report back in a few days.

UPDATE-1: The above kernel turned out to be stable. The crashes have disappeared. And after updating to an even newer one, 4.11.5-200.fc25.x86_64, stability continues.

UPDATE-2: The issue has returned, so I was incorrect in the above solution (didn't wait long enough). I'm not sure what it causing this again. It's not the laptop, by the way, because multi-booting into MS-Windows 10 has no issues. So I'll uncheck my answer for now. =:) Will check back if I resolve this later.

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sounds like an overheat. my desktop runs warmer in linux than in windows. immediately after it freezes, can you go to bios, and check temperatures?

SteveEbey73701 gravatar imageSteveEbey73701 ( 2017-06-21 18:37:24 -0500 )edit

Possibly. I'll have to check what the BIOS has to offer temperature wise. I'll check that out next time. Thank you. :)

nyceyes gravatar imagenyceyes ( 2017-06-22 11:00:32 -0500 )edit

answered 2017-06-16 07:33:39 -0500

SteveEbey73701 gravatar image

I run 381.22 proprietary. I do not know what the version numbers are on the negativo version, could be a modification. I am on a desktop, so only have the one video adapter. I am running 4.11.4-200 and letting dkms build the kernel modules during the kernel updates. No issues.

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