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Ask Fedora: When we upgrade to a new askbot, should we leave some baggage behind?

asked 2017-01-13 16:18:02 -0500

mattdm gravatar image

updated 2017-01-14 07:54:35 -0500

There are a lot of awesome questions on this site, but there are a lot which are out of date and unloved. While we don't have resources for this other than volunteer spare time (more help wanted!), we're thinking about doing an update to a newer version of the software. (There are some django/python compatibility issues to sort out.)

When we do that, I definitely want to clean up the list of tags. I'm also wondering if we should clean up the questions. I'm thinking: drop all questions which don't have at least 2 upvotes or 500 page views.

What do you think?

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Better, I think, would be to leave behind any questions with no activity for more than (let's say) a year, unless they meet a threshold of upvotes or page views. (This would get rid of all the ancient questions you've been bringing back by editing.)

sideburns gravatar imagesideburns ( 2017-01-13 17:28:00 -0500 )edit

I'm in favor of aggressive culling here. Unproductive questions only consume infrastructure resources and visitors' time. If an unanswered question has value, it should have been upvoted. Cleaning up according to those rules on a regular basis going forward is a good idea, too. I prefer relevance over an unsorted archive.

randomuser gravatar imagerandomuser ( 2017-01-13 19:48:15 -0500 )edit

@sideburns — note that all of the old questions I brought back to the front by editing were in the top two dozen overall in page views in 2016, so I'm pretty sure we'd want to preserve those. But, yeah, we could add an "activity" threshold too. Or, maybe just also keep questions without upvotes but which have highly-upvoted answers? Do we have a lot of those?

mattdm gravatar imagemattdm ( 2017-01-14 07:57:18 -0500 )edit

The questions that should be deleted first are the ones that related to old versions of Fedora that are now irrelevant.

'How do I update from Fedora 8?'

I think a massive cull is in order! Maybe anything less than F24 in the title could be in line for flagging as delete? The problem is that someone would manually need to look at these to see if the answer was still relevant :)

SO many questions on here just answer the same thing again and again:

  • X driver doesn't work in X version of Fedora
  • How do I update version X of Fedora
  • The new kernel version X makes my system crash
David-LDA gravatar imageDavid-LDA ( 2017-01-14 08:14:07 -0500 )edit

@David-LDA Yeah, I'd really like some scheme to make those archived automatically . The first step would be to make sure that they're all tagged with the appropriate version, which is very hard to enforce. I'd love to make a fedora-## tag mandatory when creating a troubleshooting ticket, and then we could act on those somehow. I filed this upstream RFE but am not holding my breath. :)

mattdm gravatar imagemattdm ( 2017-01-14 12:29:30 -0500 )edit

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answered 2017-06-27 13:35:28 -0500

techtonik gravatar image
  1. Tag questions with the version of Fedora that was released at the time question is asked.
  2. Get stats/dataset about questions that have no upvotes/views/answers/flags/tooold and publish it (make it live?)
  3. Add 'untriaged' flag to tooold issues that mean that at least three people should upvote or bury the question.
  4. Give points for moderating questions and monthly hiscore to put into resume.
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1 won't work because not everybody here is using the latest released version. Some posters are using older versions and some are asking about things still in beta, which belong on the test list. #2 looks pointless and #3 unfairly punishes people asking obscure questions. I'm not sure what effect you expect from #4, but I'd expect that there'd be people upvoting random questions just to get karma. (I've seen similar things on other sites.)

sideburns gravatar imagesideburns ( 2017-06-27 16:13:18 -0500 )edit

1 tag them with the greatest released version at that time. Or make it fedora-8-guessed and require users to add specific tag when updating question. #2 is for data hackers, it is premature to call their job pointless without giving them the data. #3 there should be workflow/motivation for people to improve their obscure questions, untriaged at least makes it clear that question may need more work and/or recommendations. #4 then the gameplay should be harder to outplay, like require moderators rep

techtonik gravatar imagetechtonik ( 2017-07-12 00:09:56 -0500 )edit

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