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Why don't people use their votes in here?

asked 2014-10-28 21:02:49 -0600

I am a member of this community and some others, only two of them have this model of "up and down votes". How can it be that people in here don't use their votes?

The voting system, "if used" would greatly improve the quality of questions and answers. I would think.

The voting system should help others indentify the users that put the most effort into their questions and anwers.

I've been a member for almost a year now, and I recently came across another users profile which had approximately the same amount of answers and questions and had been a member for approximately the same amount of time, still his answers and questions had exactly the same low frequency of votes. Why is that?

If you are a member of this community, please use your votes. It strenghtens the system we use.

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I get visit specific questions as I am subscribed to the RSS feed. I should probably visit the site more often for voting.

sudhirkhanger gravatar imagesudhirkhanger ( 2014-10-29 02:42:44 -0600 )edit
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Wouldn't a better question be: How can we encourage people to vote more on Ask Fedora? It'll even get answers worth marking. The current one is more a discussion thread, something Askbot isn't designed for.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2014-10-29 03:31:11 -0600 )edit
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Also note that we already have a question about this: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/8160/sticky-why-is-the-ability-to-upvote-and-downvote-important-to-us/

I'd recommend upvoting that and commenting to get it more visibility instead of this new one.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2014-10-29 03:32:16 -0600 )edit
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It's somewhat unfair, but if a question has two or three answers and is already marked as solved, it's difficult to go opening that question to vote in preference to the question that has no answers where someone actually needs help. For me, the unanswered ones always come first. And if I've not had time to get to all of those, then looking round to apply votes isn't going to get a look in. I do try to reward good questions and good answers where I see them, though.

cobra gravatar imagecobra ( 2014-10-29 04:33:22 -0600 )edit
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I don't have enough karma to vote up answers. So even when I want to I can't vote.

Mr. G gravatar imageMr. G ( 2014-10-29 15:04:37 -0600 )edit

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answered 2014-10-28 22:12:32 -0600

updated 2014-10-28 22:13:42 -0600

Personally, I vote often - but I'm discerning about it. I vote up answers that I think are adequately thorough, correct, and repeatable. I might not vote up an answer that is correct but not thorough, or one that solves the immediate problem but doesn't apply broadly enough to be useful to users with similar problems. I usually only downvote if an answer is wrong or harmful. If I think an answer can be improved, I'll often offer suggestions and come back to review and vote.

So, mediocre answers get neutral karma. That makes sense to me.

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answered 2015-11-09 02:32:56 -0600

xenithorb gravatar image

I think psychologically the system here prevents voting. Long time Fedora user, new ask.fedora member. Some posts require >100 somethings to vote, some only require >10. Trying to vote and being rejected with a big red dialog isn't rewarding and will probably prevent me from trying again for quite some time. It's an option I probably won't try again because it isn't clear when you actually have the option to exercise that right. As such, it will be a feature that I simply discover later some day when I think I have the ability. If that intuition is too soon, I will perhaps push trying to vote again even further.

I hope you can see how the policy around voting is what's causing the issue.

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I tried to upvote this answer, and suprisingly it worked. Would vote again.

mithrial gravatar imagemithrial ( 2015-11-10 04:54:54 -0600 )edit
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answered 2014-10-29 08:54:14 -0600

liquidat gravatar image

To me it looks like that the idea of what is worth voting differs from other platforms. Given the answers already provided here voting might be more seen as a reward to exceptional answers and not a reward for answers which still help, but are not exceptional.

This would be in contrast to other platforms where you get an upvote for a helpful answer - if you are exceptional you have no further benefit, though.

However, this is a presumption - but it could be interesting to collect more data to see if that is indeed the real reason. It would reflect my personal experience at least. Another question would be which approach is better - but I guess that's up to the individual.

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answered 2014-10-29 02:38:22 -0600

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Me, I personally don't vote that much compared to other people. I think really good answers deserve votes. When I look at an answer, it sometimes doesn't work, so a good alternative would be useful. A good explanation would also help. Of course, I try to make my answer as good as possible so that I can help the person (and partially so I gain karma). Karma, is, I think, a "reward" for helping a person.

So, if an answer doesn't help, don't vote at all. If it does really help, consider giving it an upvote, and if you can and want to, mark it as correct. I'm not sure why other people don't vote, but I don't vote often because the answer is not detailed enough and describes why it works. An example: a one line answer which works , but doesn't include other options or resources, I wouldn't vote at all. On the other hand, something which is obviously wrong, insecure or doesn't make sense would get downvoted. The other, thorough (as @randomuser said) would get upvoted and marked as correct. Example: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/9111/sticky-what-plugins-do-i-need-to-install-to-watch-movies-and-listen-to-music/ is concise and clear, easy to do, and well explained. It also works. So, upvote that one! :)

James

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Hi James, welcome! I just checked the site settings - it should be, universally, 10 karma for upvote, 100 karma for downvote - do you have an example of an exception?

randomuser gravatar imagerandomuser ( 2015-11-10 00:51:16 -0600 )edit

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