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Should we use Ask between Fedora Project contributors?

asked 2013-08-06 04:07:52 -0600

shaiton gravatar image

updated 2013-08-06 04:42:11 -0600

Hey, I always feel Ask is user centric, but it's really convenient in order to developp several solutions to one question (read as 'issue').

In order to discuss things between contributors, we have:

  1. IRC channels
  2. Mailing lists that would be improved with the incoming Hyperkitty
  3. Real life with Fedora events

Shouldn't we start using it in inside the Project? Simple users would feel closer to Fedora Project contributors, and would be able to write inputs. Of course, what is specific to a project (docs for example) don't need to be there.

I can think about questions like:

  • What are your feelings about start.fpo?
  • Would $THIS_SOFTWARE would be nice to be packaged?
  • How would you implement $THIS_FEATURE into the next Fedora?
  • Where is the staging instance to start hacking on $PROJECT?

I am not sure that spreading contributors thread accross multiple platform is nice, therefore I never did that.. What are your feelings?

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It's a good idea, but I'd still prefer the mailing lists. Two reasons: a) the irc and mailing lists are setup for that specific purpose. b) Ask is not designed to be a discussion forum. Fedoraforum would still be able to handle discussions in some capacity but ask is purely a question and answer forum. For example, what would you consider as the correct answer to this question itself?

I'm completely not in favour of questions like "what are your feelings about start.fp.o". There is no correct answer to it. I'm not in favour of your first three questions, for the same reason.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-08-06 07:05:36 -0600 )edit

Sure, there could be no True answer but one choosen against several. Alright, thanks. (The issue is that we don't catch people outside our group in mailing lists)

shaiton gravatar imageshaiton ( 2013-08-06 09:09:16 -0600 )edit

I like one part of this proposal, user inclusion. I could ask "What topics should we cover in the Cloud Guide" and users could contribute ideas too. That question is conducive to a Q&A format, but many won't be. The presentation here is one of giving concise answers, not of discussion. Contributors would have to actively seek out tags they are interested in, rather than passively receive mail - unless Questions are announced on lists, in which case the discussion would probably stay there.

randomuser gravatar imagerandomuser ( 2013-08-06 09:13:50 -0600 )edit

As @randomuser says, I too like the user inclusion part. This will help to gather new and innovative ideas from day to day users of the software. But, I think, instead of AskFedora, it is better to create a new site with some name like DiscussFedora, DevelopFedora, etc.,

Jomoos gravatar imageJomoos ( 2013-08-07 01:27:23 -0600 )edit

Yeah, the idea to gather new contributors is to help users feel included in our discussions. But a tool that is not used on the right way is not useful at all, therefore I get your points.

shaiton gravatar imageshaiton ( 2013-08-07 04:13:13 -0600 )edit

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answered 2014-10-16 02:51:49 -0600

pravins gravatar image

IMO good to keep it specific to particular purpose.

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answered 2014-10-15 21:43:45 -0600

Simple users would feel closer to Fedora Project contributors

I really like this idea. I have no experience nor knowledge on your processes, but I would find it very interesting to be closer(in here) to the contributors.


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answered 2014-10-12 17:34:59 -0600

dnozay gravatar image

updated 2014-10-13 12:02:54 -0600

2 cents - I do not care if it is used by project contributors when doing development. Actually probably not a good idea because there may be a lot of noise generated and people already have their own development workflow.

But, when you guys QA a project / feature and there are bugs, it would be great if a question and answer was there to be found on askfedora. Most users are able to search a community forum more easily than a defect tracker (launchpad, bugzilla, jira, etc).

E.g. QA would be like "hey I found this issue, anybody got a solution?" in particular when the package / source has been released in the wild. Particularly helpful. The answer does not have to be very long, if it points to release notes or errata or wiki pages, it's all great. The answer can contain the link to th Common Bugs, as well as point out the Changes that went in that release.

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IMO to discuss on features or bugs bugzilla is a good place and if you need more wider discussion, mailing list is good option.

pnemade gravatar imagepnemade ( 2014-10-12 22:34:30 -0600 )edit

forgot to mention, If you want to check more about features introduced in any fedora release just check this and what bugs were common for any release at this link

pnemade gravatar imagepnemade ( 2014-10-12 22:37:53 -0600 )edit

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