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unbelievably, extremely slow boot time

asked 2019-01-10 15:02:13 -0600

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Hi All,

I'm installing Linux on an older HP Laptop for my father so he can continue getting updated web browser. Chrome/Firefox no longer update on his mac. I've been installing many flavors of Fedora to see which I can make east for an 80-year-old Mac person to use.

Note: Earlier today I tried installing Ubuntu. It asked about installing a boot loader is there were to be more than one OS on the computer. I declined to install anything, but I think that may have been where the problem started.

I settled on Fedora with Cinnamon desktop. When I installed it a few days ago it worked great, booted great, and was modifyable enough that Dad could use it without confusion.\

However, after reinstalling today, the boot time became STUNNINGLY SLOW. I mean, go cook lunch slow.

I promised I'd have this done for tomorrow's visit, but this boot problem is killing me.

I'll attach some diagnostics. First, inxi -Fxz, and then systemd-analyze blame (Quite long -- 75 lines). What's killing me is it seems to be different things appearing in this list. Plymoth is always there, but I've seen initd.service at the top, as well as others that I can't remember. Let me know if there's other information I can post. I'm quite lost at this level of problem solving, so if you have a suggestion, please be as explicit as you can. "Put a cli option on your grub init file" won't help me, but "Edit /etc/init/grub and add the line system.grub=ini" would be wonderfully helpful.

(UPDATE with more. even slower information at bottom)

System: Host: laptop Kernel: 4.18.16-300.fc29.x86_64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
  v: 8.2.1 Desktop: Cinnamon 3.8.9 Distro: Fedora release 29 (Twenty Nine) 
Machine: Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard 
  product: HP Compaq 6510b (GZ438UP#ABA) v: F.10 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30C0 v: KBC Version 71.2E serial: <filter> 
  BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68DDU Ver. F.10 date: 01/11/2008 
Battery: ID-1: C23B charge: 44.0 Wh condition: 44.0/44.0 Wh (100%) 
  model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: Full 
CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo T7100 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Core Merom rev: D L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 7181 
  Speed: 798 MHz min/max: 800/1801 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798 
Graphics: Device-1: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics driver: i915 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Display: x11 server: Fedora Project 11.0 driver: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1280x800~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM v: 2.1 Mesa 18.2.2 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio: Device-1: Intel 82801H HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.18.16-300.fc29.x86_64 
Network: Device-1: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN ...
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Welcome to ask.fedora! It might be a good idea to trim your question slightly, removing any service that takes less than a second, because they don't take enough time to be relevant here. It also might help to add the results of systemd-analyze so that we can get a better idea of just how long your boot takes. (You can't just add up the times for everything to finish, as many of them are done in parallel.)

sideburns gravatar imagesideburns ( 2019-01-19 13:37:25 -0600 )edit

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answered 2019-01-18 19:22:06 -0600

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updated 2019-01-19 12:27:41 -0600

This laptop should run (even with 2GB) with NO problems a modern Linux distro. I have had this exact (!) laptop, it should be beefy and sturdy enough to do what you want, without the agonizing delays.

True Story: I was able to Hackintosh it! I wouldn't recommend that at all, by the way. WEEKS of pain.

Anyhow, as the "blame game" shifts (from dracut, to ubiquity), can we really assume it's a single OS-level issue?

I would recommend (in order):

  1. Flashing the BIOS - you're on F.10 which is from '09 - in '11 they released F.16, which also updates the Video Bios

  2. Resetting all CMOS/BIOS/UEFI settings to factory defaults

  3. WIPE the drive: wipe it completely (boot to your OS of choice and choose the tool to do so - you need to wipe everything from the drive, partitions, mbr, boot sector, uefi partitions, everything)

  4. Testing your system (HP offers various hardware diagnostics) to ensure it's NOT another hardware issue

  5. Reseat your RAM, and hard drive. The RAM is easy, the hard drive cover (right side?) requires one screw and the cover comes off, then another screw to loosen the drive. Remove it, dab the SATA connector with an ISO (91% or better) alcohol-swabbed Q-tip to clean up, let it dry, reinsert firmly, reseal). You can also do the same to the RAM golden fingers, both sides. Surprised myself many times by saying, "It's not corroded! It's not dirty!" - but it still managed to get things going again.
  6. Cleaning the fan out (as bootups stress the system, causing the fan to kick in, and if dusty, causing slowness again as there may be thermal throttling) -- and if I remember correctly, this sucker gets hot!

    General cleaning video.

  7. Finally - and I don't mean to infer that better parts make better experiences, but experience tells me your Seagate Momentus 5400 is a bit dated - a 128GB SSD would give you 30-60 percent improvement out of the gate.

  8. Triple-check your distro sources, and ensure the USB stick/install media is known to work (or new). So many man-hours of my life have been spent scratching my head after a 'good' install to find that the install was corrupted, because the source was corrupted, or the install method had a hiccup.

  9. Why not try a lighter-weight install first? Perhaps a Fedora 28 install with minimal desktop (LXDE), and Firefox? If you are truly just providing a Web Browsing platform, this will do JUST fine.

    Golden tip: have patience, document your progress, and realize that anytime you rush, you're going to make mistakes that compound other mistakes.

Another golden tip: nothing should be downloaded from ANY site except HP, that you plan on running OUTSIDE of the OS. If you're gonna wipe the hard drive, do it with a known good tool, and check the MD5/hash sums for the download again, from a trust source site (verify the HTTPS cert if you are going ... (more)

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