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Why does Anaconda, when launched from a bare-metal installation of stable Fedora, default to installing Rawhide?

asked 2017-08-30 23:07:22 -0600

terrycloth gravatar image

updated 2017-09-01 13:08:40 -0600

I did a fresh installation of Fedora 26 Workstation a couple weeks ago. I was surprised to discover that Anaconda was installed and usable on my desktop rather than just on my live USB, but thought it could be convenient to be able to install Fedora onto another hard drive without having to boot into the flash drive and then reboot again when it's done.

However, Anaconda gives the "You wake up in Timbuktu..." message when launching, because it defaults to installing Rawhide. This seems weird to me: If I launch Anaconda from live Fedora 26, it installs Fedora 26; so why would launching Anaconda from bare-metal Fedora 26 try to install Rawhide?

(Also, bare-metal Anaconda immediately reboots the system when you close it, which the live version doesn't do either.)

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answered 2017-09-15 07:35:21 -0600

hedayat gravatar image

Well, Anaconda is in the repos, but it is not meant to be run by end users from their installed distro. It is used to build Fedora Live & Installer media. Also, Anaconda supports installing from a Live media, or from an installation media (or from network). It does NOT support installing from a non-live running Fedora installation (e.g. the Fedora installed on your HDD).

So, even if you get your installed Anaconda to install something, it'll download all required RPMs from internet and install on the target media. It won't use the installed packages in your system. And it is probably much easier to use a net install .iso rather than configuring your own Anaconda for that purpose.

Therefore, you probably would go with installing Fedora using your flash :)

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I knew that you're normally supposed to install from live media --- but then why is Anaconda itself installed by default on my desktop? Seems like someone thought there was a use case for it...

terrycloth gravatar imageterrycloth ( 2017-09-15 22:01:54 -0600 )edit

Good question! But I'd guess that it'd not be installed by default if you don't use Live media to install Fedora. For Live versions, anaconda will be installed by default, because it is installed in the Live image. And when you install a Live media, the whole image is transferred to the destination partition (There is no 'package installation' during an install from live media. It is just a complete file system image (ext4) copied to the destination). So, since Anaconda is installed in the Live media version, it'll be also available on the installed system.

hedayat gravatar imagehedayat ( 2017-09-16 05:05:42 -0600 )edit

However, it might be a good suggestion for the live media installation process to remove anaconda after installation from the system.

hedayat gravatar imagehedayat ( 2017-09-16 05:06:29 -0600 )edit

answered 2017-09-05 02:22:46 -0600

jkonecny gravatar image

This information is not only from Anaconda but there is also a product image which is designed specifically for Fedora release. This means that you have Anaconda without any information of product you want to install. These products are normally installed as a package to the installation iso and then read by Anaconda.

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answered 2017-09-01 14:14:00 -0600

avramoff gravatar image

You can turn off the Rawhide updates, and turn on the regular updates by

sudo dnf config-manager --disablerepo rawhide -v
sudo dnf config-manager --enablerepo updates -v

and than to clean and downgrade

sudo dnf clean all

sudo dnf update -v --allowerasing

I think it would work, without any assurance, because your case is impossible in principle!!!

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I think you might be misunderstanding. I don't want/need to downgrade from Rawhide because I haven't installed Rawhide yet. I'm launching Anaconda from a normal, "bare metal" installation of Fedora 26 on my desktop, not from the live USB -- but Anaconda by default is configured to install Rawhide, if I follow through. I want to know why Anaconda behaves this way on an F26 Workstation.

terrycloth gravatar imageterrycloth ( 2017-09-02 00:25:47 -0600 )edit

answered 2017-09-01 14:08:30 -0600

avramoff gravatar image

I wish it was like that!...... I have tried to install a complete copy of Fedora 27 Workstation Live, but Anaconda couldn't do the job. Now I am back on F26, but wouldn't take the risk to "Mass Rebuild Fedora 26" - as I had tried and it all ruined...

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