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Sorry for the confusion, problem solved and peace of mind restored. I opened the gnome terminal and entered the update command got the last metadata and result. I ran it twice to be sure. What surprised me was that no updates were needed. Earlier today I had done the dnf update on the usual terminal, and the gnome metadata referred to that, so it seems that the normal dnf command had updated both gnome and non-gnome packages without me realising that fact. Thanks very much